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URGENT Judge's Duty of Care to LIP, Article 6 Compliant

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URGENT Judge's Duty of Care to LIP, Article 6 Compliant

Postby cptntacredi on Tue Jan 06, 2009 10:28 pm

Can someone urgently explain to me over the judge's duty of care to a LIP and the duty extending to making sure that you understand what is being said in court.

Also all hearings needing to be Article 6 compliant (right to a fair trial). This article 6 point extending to all parties.
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Postby mobaldy2005 on Wed Jan 07, 2009 12:02 am

R, a Judge doesn't really have a duty of care towards people who are LIP although the judge should show some compassion towards the LIP.

I understand that mondays hearing in front of Judge C in Sheffield didn't go too well, I would like to say I told you so but that wouldn't sort out the current situation.

I know full well how hard it is to get anywhere in Sheffield but I know it is not just the courts who are unfair, sheffield SS play a major role in the case too.
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Postby NRparent on Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:19 am

This is a loooong read.

http://www.dca.gov.uk/research/2005/2_2005.pdf


(page 192)
Although the judges did not avert to this specifically, the overriding objective of the Civil Procedure Rules is relevant


These Rules are a new procedural code with the overriding objective of enabling the court to deal with cases justly.

(2) Dealing with a case justly includes, so far as is practicable –

(a) ensuring that the parties are on an equal footing;

(b) saving expense;

(c) dealing with the case in ways which are proportionate –

(i) to the amount of money involved;
(ii) to the importance of the case;
(iii) to the complexity of the issues; and
(iv) to the financial position of each party;

(d) ensuring that it is dealt with expeditiously and fairly; and

(e) allotting to it an appropriate share of the court’s resources, while taking into account the need to allot resources to other cases.





Skip to the upper 170's and onto page 181. Read from there.




From what I can gather and I have not read it in these exact words.

The Judge is expected to make sure that the hearing is fair. For the hearing to be fair, you need to understand what's being said so you can respond or react accordingly or appropriately.
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Postby Hope on Thu Jan 08, 2009 4:42 pm

How can any have a fair trial when all the cards are stacked against them by the local authority and so-called independent professionals - it is farcial?
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Postby Andrew on Thu Jan 08, 2009 5:07 pm

Hope wrote:How can any have a fair trial when all the cards are stacked against them by the local authority and so-called independent professionals - it is farcial?


Their job is just to make it look right, "oh x number are concerned" - It sounds better than 1 :lol:

It is impossible to have a fair trial when the evidence used is just outright sloppy & untested.

It is exactly the evidence that got witches burned & drowned.

Even with the crap "evidence" it is hard to even find a "fair judge" that is why parents simply do not stand a chance because they often do have judges that are against them, barristers, solicitors, LA, GAL + crap evidence.
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Postby loving Mama on Sat Apr 18, 2009 7:53 pm

Avoid Judge Ibbotson in circuit judge in Yorkshire then as he does not have any time for LIP whatsoever. He instructed me to seek legal representation to make everyone's jobs easier.
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Postby Secrets on Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:54 pm

loving Mama wrote: He instructed me to seek legal representation to make everyone's jobs easier.


Perpetuate the cycle of evil is coded as "make the job easier".

They can't see it "broken" into and exposed for a sham.
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Postby loving Mama on Mon Apr 27, 2009 1:40 pm

Judge Ibbotson did NOT ensure that 2(a) was adhered to, ALL parties were treated as equal, (the nasty little man). He made it quite clear he DID NOT want me acting as LIP. Guess he's not going to be happy next week when I continue to be LIP :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: Could this be used to have him removed from the case & have another judge preside????

Hope you are ready for this one next week Mobaldy. I think you are going to enjoy reminding our friends of the relevant laws etc. They are going to get a shock with your knowledge, experience & insight. Although I doubt they'll give me as hard a time when you are there as they do when I am alone. Other parties just like to swoop like vultures & the judge aides & abets them in doing so. The barrister for my daughter is particularly cunning & sly, so watch out for him :evil: :evil: :evil:
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