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SS applying for a Recovery Order

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Postby Secrets on Sat Aug 29, 2009 5:52 pm

loving Mama wrote:NOW I AM FACED WITH THE BIGGEST DILEMA YET

JUDICIAL REVIEW OR COURT OF APPEAL

DECISIONS DECISIONS :roll: :roll:

I have a feeling I should go with both courses of action on differing issues, but which ones??? This is where I really do have to get it right!!!!



Answer = Definite Court of Appeal.

Why = It's en route to the ECHR. So start ticking those boxes!!

You need to have completed the COA to get to ECHR.

And lets face it. There's only so much social worker /Judicial nonsense we should have to put up with.

The courts are not supposed to be batman and robin with the social workers.

Time to split them up, and that will take ECHR rulings. The better idea Europe will have about how appalling the UK social worker/ Judiciary are.
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Postby loving Mama on Tue Sep 01, 2009 6:12 pm

I have discovered that the GAL Sol in our case was placed under investigation for misuse of client funds in April 2005, just as he was appointed to act for my children, and received a hefty £7,500 fine + another financial penalty of paying 1/7th of the investigation costs from the Solicitors Regulatory Authority in 2006. He is NOT the type of person who should be acting for children as he quite clearly can't be trusted with Legal Funding Certificates!!!!

No wonder all other parties are trying to close rank in this case, they're all hiding one anothers skeletons!!!!


Four-partner Yorkshire firm Carrick Carr & Wright has been shut down after improperly paying nearly three quarters of a million pounds - half of it client money - into the office account

The firm's partners have lost a High Court battle where they claimed the Law Society should not shut their practice down as this would infringe their human rights.

The Law Society intervened in the practice, shutting it down, taking the partners' practising certificates away, freezing their bank accounts and closing the client account, on 27 August this year.

Carrick Carr, based in Bradford and Hull, has now been shut down. The four partners in the firm are senior partner John Wright, Philip Goodall, Michael East and David Prescott. The partners applied to the High Court to have their practising certificates restored, contending "the decision to intervene infringed their human rights, in particular, the right to peaceful enjoyment of their possessions", the judgment states.

According to the judgment, the Law Society investigation into the practice discovered that there had been around £725,000 wrongly paid into the Carrick Carr office account. It also found that nearly half of this money had been wrongly transferred back into the client account at some point.
The judgment mentions: "Improper transfers from client to office account of £397,364.40, other improper payments into the office account so that the total is £725,116.83 which is to be offset against £339,756 of office account money wrongly paid into the client account."
In the High Court, the four partners blamed a Mr Rooney, a cashier at Carrick Carr for 20 years, for significant breaches of the firm's account rules over seven years. But the judge found there was "no evidence that Mr Rooney gained personally from his activities at the expense of the firm. This means the partners have gained."
A Law Society intervention agent said the partners could not be contacted as the firm had been shut down.
The High Court ruling, handed down by Mr Justice John Behrens, represents a major victory for the Law Society, which is fighting various battles on this issue.
The society is currently appealing another High Court decision made against it in July which said its "draconian" method of shutting corrupt solicitors may contravene their right to personal property enshrined in the 1998 Human Rights Act.
The case, brought by sole practitioner David Holder, who had £200,000 missing from his client account, is being appealed by the Law Society.
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Postby Secrets on Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:19 pm

Not shut down their practice as it's against their human rights.

**splutters corn flakes over keyboard**

You can probably hear me laughing up at the North Pole.

Oh, LM, you caught them red handed. So THAT'S what they're hiding!!
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Postby loving Mama on Tue Sep 01, 2009 9:37 pm

Secrets wrote:Not shut down their practice as it's against their human rights.

**splutters corn flakes over keyboard**

Oh, LM, you caught them red handed. So THAT'S what they're hiding!!


You need to put those cornflakes down Secrets before you unintentionally choke !! :lol: :lol:

I certainly caught the naughty cunning sly GAL & the deceitful manipulative SOL he employs as his right hand man :twisted: :twisted:

I kid you not, one of the aformentioned partners of the above firm was instructed as the GAL SOL by the GAL, shortly after the firm was closed & as all this saga was unravelling. The corrupt GAL clearly knew about this malpractice and misuse of funds investigation all along, and has continued to instruct the bozo wherever he has travelled, now employed by 3 differing firms since we first became acquainted with him. The GAL appears to be simply lining this bozo's pocket, they are a real duble act, more alike Laurel & Hardy. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Worse still this guy claims to be a higher and civil courts expert and even claims to be able to be experinced in house of lords work too!!!!

Oh dear all this just adds more weight to my concerns for my ever growing list for The Law Society re the malpractice my case, tut tut tut.
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Postby loving Mama on Fri Sep 04, 2009 4:54 pm

GAL & GAL SOL (Laurel & Hardy) are really up to their necks in it now. Had a contact with my son today who informed me that he had recently had a visit from both together, and the GAL alledgedly said "Oh (son's name) I though we had sorted all this complaints business between ourselves" My son felt intimidated by the GAL & GAL SOL as the complaint being referred to is individual complaints against the GAL & GAL from my 2 youngest that are being advocated by Voice For The Child In Care. My son has handwritten a letter to the judge about the incident and I have it in my possession to send once I have taken copies. I rang Voice to inform them of the intimidation of a vulnerable child, and they have advised me to take copies of the letter so they can have one. I am also sending one to Cafcass HQ & the GSCC along with a copy to The Law Society. Dear oh dear it seems Laurel and Hardy truely are a nasty little doube act.
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Postby Secrets on Fri Sep 04, 2009 6:33 pm

loving Mama wrote:GAL & GAL SOL (Laurel & Hardy) are really up to their necks in it now. Had a contact with my son today who informed me that he had recently had a visit from both together, and the GAL alledgedly said "Oh (son's name) I though we had sorted all this complaints business between ourselves" My son felt intimidated by the GAL & GAL SOL as the complaint being referred to is individual complaints against the GAL & GAL from my 2 youngest that are being advocated by Voice For The Child In Care. My son has handwritten a letter to the judge about the incident and I have it in my possession to send once I have taken copies. I rang Voice to inform them of the intimidation of a vulnerable child, and they have advised me to take copies of the letter so they can have one. I am also sending one to Cafcass HQ & the GSCC along with a copy to The Law Society. Dear oh dear it seems Laurel and Hardy truely are a nasty little doube act.


AWESOME!!

I'm so proud of you and VOICE.

Honestly CAFCASS needs a boot for it's arse.
And well done for your son - standing up against CAFCASS bullies is a major thing.

CAFCASS HQ (Sperm of Satan).


CAFCASS HQ
Archway Tower - 13th Floor (the floor with al the F4J posters in it!)
2 Junction Road
Islington
London N19 5HQ

Tel: 0207 210 4100
Fax: 0208 445 1041

The UK CAFCASS complaints manager is a guy who writes articles for F4J so he's so personally biased, (from his own divorce) he won't register complaints from mums.

Nothing like neutrality is there!

**Waves to Steve** Yes, it's you I'm talking about!!
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Re: SS applying for a Recovery Order

Postby loving Mama on Sun Sep 06, 2009 5:03 pm

Thanks Secrets,

I can refer to his F4J activities when he starts giving me his gender bias drivel, if he even dares to!!!!!
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Re: SS applying for a Recovery Order

Postby Secrets on Sun Sep 06, 2009 9:01 pm

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:Lg ... clnk&gl=uk

Steve Adams - See page 5
It's his article for FNF.

The 13th floor of Archway is covered in Fathers rights posters. Nothing for mothers though, hardly neutral that!!

He's divorced and details his split in this article.

He won't register your complaint - or wont' register mine, even though there's an EDM to back me up and a petition in Hansard.

So maybe we need an EDM about CAFCASS's complaints system.

Your complaints will be fobbed off by Steve Adams - he's doesn't register them.

No how can CAFCASS pick and choose the complaints they register?
And doesn't that bias the figures for OFSTED.

So I put an FOI against OFSTED, so they knew about my complaint. It should have given OFSTED a heads up that CAFCASS's complaints system is like alice in wonderland.

good luck though! I'll be rooting for you.
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Re: SS applying for a Recovery Order

Postby loving Mama on Thu Sep 10, 2009 11:59 am

*** HOW DO I APPLY FOR A CIVIL INJUNCTION IN COUNTY COURT *** ????????
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Re: SS applying for a Recovery Order

Postby loving Mama on Fri Sep 11, 2009 2:21 pm

It's The Friday afternoon Trick again!!!!

SS have taken my 4 month old daughter on a PPO today. They have refused to place her with any family or freinds saying they don't have time to do the F&F Assessment. The SS have said they will start the assessments on Monday, but in the meantime she is going to a foster placement. I have requested contact with my grand-daughter today, but not heard anything further as yet. I am waiting for the DSM to get back to me.

I am trying to get my 16yr old daughter (baby's Mum) home to me so I can get her away from the situation and hopefully salvage something from this awful chaotic mess we are all now in!!!
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Re: SS applying for a Recovery Order

Postby loving Mama on Sun Sep 13, 2009 11:31 pm

Events of the last few days have made an absolute mockery of S.31 care orders and indeed their application for a S.50, S.34(4) & even a S.91(14).

The LA left my child on a S.31 Full Care Order at the home of inappropriate adults, whom they know is NOT permitted to have any supervised nor unsupervised contact with my children, they also left the child without a suitable placement, not in the safe care of an appropriate adult, without money, no food nor shelter!!!!

Needless to say I collected my child and ensured she was safe and well cared for. The manager thanked me when I informed them she was safely in my care. Boy oh boy am I going to wipe the floor with the LA in court with this one!

I wonder what excuses their legal team will come up with?? I bet they blame the child whom they say votes with her feet, yet they have the S.31 so have the powers to enforce it!!!


Jeepers surely this meets the precedent for the worst behaved authority.
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Re: SS applying for a Recovery Order

Postby Secrets on Mon Sep 14, 2009 8:57 am

If the LA know that these adults are not permitted any form of contact, why did they choose them?
Is it incompetent or deliberately trying to wind you up?

If the legal team do start to say the child voted with her own feet - that's a clear signal for the judge, that these care orders should stop.
It might be a good thing, a silver lining to an awful weekend.

But you came through it!! And you might be in a stronger position!
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Re: SS applying for a Recovery Order

Postby loving Mama on Tue Sep 15, 2009 12:31 am

She did vote with her feet she had rung me periodically throughout the day, almost twice per hour to request I travel to where she was to collect her.

The people who she had been placed with by the EDT were unsuitable as one is a perpetrator of sexual abuse and only escaped prosecution due to early disclosure not taking place, his partner is so unstable she has a CPN visit her twice a week, and is due to be sentenced at crown court next week for perjury & perverting the course of justice. Not appropriate adults for any child to be placed with. I also have a letter from Ed Balls as Secretary of State agreeing with me that the perp' of S.A should not have any supervised nor unsupervised contact with any of my children. I have supplied the LA with a copy of that because they kept claiming to know nothing about it. This needs looking into in further detail as Ed Balls assured me he was liasing with the Corporate Director of the LA re the matter and that my children's then carers were made aware of the conclusion of the investigation.

The latest in this saga that is worse than a whole year of Eastenders, is that my daughter has had to sign an undertaking that she will remain resident at my home to enable her baby to be returned to her care after the PPO expired, though the LA state they intend to apply for care proceedings with regard the baby :?

The LA's case is now crumblier than a packet of breadcrumbs :wink: :wink:
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Re: SS applying for a Recovery Order

Postby loving Mama on Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:19 pm

*** HELP URGENTLY NEEDED ***

CAN ANYONE RECALL A HIGH COURT RULING, POSSIBLY BY LORD JUSTICE HOLMAN REFUSING TO ALLOW PREVIOUS/OLD PROCEEDINGS TO BE USED IN A CASE CONCERNING A NEW CHILD?? I NEED A LINK TO THE PRECEDENT ASAP FOR A HEARING THIS WEEK AS THE BLOODY LA NOW WANT TO HAVE MY CASE PAPERS RELEASED INTO THE PROCEEDINGS RE MY GRAND-DAUGHTER!!!
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Re: SS applying for a Recovery Order

Postby TC on Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:30 pm

Well bloomin; 'eck..........they trying this for us too.....Try asking on uk legal.
TC

(In my case they suddenly want my divorce papers from over 10 years ago and my medical records from birth)
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