Justice For Families

GMTV/MENCAP interview with Kerry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Yd25ejL6jU

Many thanks Secrets.
Thought you might be interested in this post from an ex social worker,

xx Husky xx

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I've read a few of the replies to this thread and it's a joke when posters come forward saying "I know the family" or "I know all the facts"

I used to be a social worker and so I know exactly how they work.

Babies ARE commodities, they have FINANCIAL VALUE to social services departments because the more they have to spend fostering a baby, having to go back to court time and time again for interim hearings, final hearings, family centre workers, etc the more money they get in their budget.

Social workers on the whole are clueless morons, they're imbeciles who live in a fantasy world. They're self serving, narcissistic protagonists who jump into situations, have a deep inability to listen, dismiss the views of both parents and chidren, (when they're of an age to speak for themselves), who cause nothing but disruption, stress and distress to families.

Yet when their heavy handed approach is needed, (such as in the Baby P case), they do nothing. They look for easy targets and easy victims.

Cooperation to social services is parents do as they say, when they say, how they say. Many departments up and down the country have "Working in partnership" in their logo's when it's far removed from anything like a partnership, it's a dictatorship.

Thankfully some courts, (not all) are wise to the tricks of social workers - unfounded accusations, misinterprited comments taken completely out of context, inaccurate reports, misleading information presented to courts, use of jargon that can be read a number of ways, etc.

I just hope this particular family gets a fair court and a fair hearing.


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I thanked her for what was becoming a heated conversation where drugs etc were being brought into it and Kerry and Mark being branded along the same lies.

Good on here but there you go an ex social workers own opinion of her old proffession.

xx Husky xx

^^Amazing views^^

CPSsucks mailed me from Canada, he's delighed by Canadian reaction to this case.

It took 3 uploads to be accepted. Then YT removed it from the search engine. So CPS mirrored me.
We spent hours on Sunday making YT publish this.
Then CPS found the Candian search engines pulling his "mirror" copy.
So we're there. You'll see me commenting to YT that this is a live case if they're being threatend by Fife Council and it's in the public domain.
That's why the GMTV links and newspaper links are there.

As CPS says, we get pulled, then somoeone gives us a helping hand and we get published. But Sunday was a blood fight. Eventually we got our lucky break.

Second post, its refreshing to see the otherside of the coin as it were.

xx Husky xx



Hi Husky & Browser,

First and foremost I feel I do have to say that not ALL social workers are bad apples, the problem as I see it is that the majority of them are.

Secondly I didn't "escape" I was eased out because I refused to go along with the so-called child protection plans proposed as I felt they were on a high number of time draconian and unwarranted when help and support could easily have been offered in other ways.

For example, I came across a number of families that I felt were self regulating yet our "involvement" caused nothing but upset and distress. Although I can't go into details I can outline the experience.

In short, the family had children removed, one at birth, and were tarred as the next Brady & Hindley until they falsified information and had a child that the "helping agencies" were not aware of.

In short, when the child was found it was in good health with no signs of abuse so any suggestion they were a danger to children was completely dismissed. They were living in my catchment area when the female fell pregnant with her 4th child, (I feel it noteworthy to stress that all children to this couple were as a result of their marriage), and my department decided to take EPO action on child 4 at birth which ultimately failed.

Very long story short, the mother on day flipped out, made a number of accusations against the father relating to domestic violence. A very grave picture was indeed painted at a highly distressed time for the mother.

The father admitted that ON OCCASION he had attacked his wife during their 20 years of marriage together but those attacks were fleeting, lasting only seconds and so infrequent there were only 10 or 11 instances during the 20 years. There was never any suggestion that the children were involved or witness to these fights between the couple.

My department decided that the mother was living in an abusive relationship and deemed it appropriate to do all it could to seperate the couple. They would not deal with the father at all, excluded him on the grounds of workers safety even though he was not known to the police for many criminal offences and those we was known for were documentary offences relating to driving offences.

The point I am making is that this particular situation was manufactured by my department to paint the worst possible picture when the reality was they were a solid family with good family values and both parents only ever became verbally aggressive towards workers when the possibility of removal of the children was mentioned otherwise they were fairly calm and rational.

I saw the problem as this, when the referral was made by the police on the basis of the statement given by the mother, the facts were twisted by the department to make it look as though the family were dysfunctional and it was not in the best interests of the children for the parents to remain together. The truth was it was easier not to work with the father and to separate the mother from him by means of threats of removal of the children from the family home.

Sadly for my department, this did not work and it only drove the couple and family as a whole closer together. At court the case was thrown out because there were no grounds for an involvement due to the fact the parents were identifying and addressing their issues themselves. As it transpired, the issues were down to the previous removals of the first two children and really had nothing at all to do with the marriage or the relationship.

Yet my department went all out to antagonise and cause disruption to this solid family and destroy it. I am thankful that the parents were intelligent and knew exactly how to play the system in order to beat it.

Sadly not many people know how to do this and when they find themselves confronted with social services departments they don't know how to handle the situation. The parent or parents get more and more stressed, social services pile on the pressure until there is a breaking point and a significant event occurs so they can say to the courts "See? We told you so"

In my view many social workers go along with this type of destructive activity because they are constantly told if they have nothing to do then their jobs are under threat due to budget cuts.

They system makes families into victims and when there is a more complex case to deal with, the resources and support are not put into place correctly therefore allowing children to die at the hands of natural parents, foster carer's, step parents and adoptive parents.

I was moved sidways and eased out because I dared to try and do my job properly, I screamed, I shouted, I stamped my feet so that the right people were getting the right help and those that didn't need me weren't having my "help" forced on them.

That is the way of the system and that is the way that the good and decent social workers are treat which is why there are so many bad apples

Wow, what an admission^^ it's sad that everyone here has that bitter experience.


Here's a comment from the wonderful youtube.... A perfect example of the attitude described in the post above!!
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Do you want another baby 'P' on our hands?

All the sentimental music and video claptrap that you post, shouldn't detract from a measured decision taken by the people closest.
Poor Social Workers, damned if they do their jobs, damned if they don't.
None of you will be there to pick up the pieces when things go drastically wrong, but I'll bet you'll be the first to condemn the social workers and damn the parents.
They get things right most of the time.