Justice For Families

thanks for that Andrew and it still leaves it open to a lot of interpretation
specifically with.
the fact that a proposed MF belongs to an organisation that promotes a particular cause

John-from-cgfap wrote:Thanks for the response Andrew,
with over 400,000 cases a year going through the family courts I am just concerned that the role of the MK friend will be outlawed, which will leave a lot of parents helpless...

Not likely to happen; simply because in the current and certainly the foreseeable future both the High Court and the Appeal Court are going to go out of their way to put on a crocodile smile and be as accomodating as possible. This is simply because the fear is that the ECHR may choose to take appeals directly - sidestepping the Appeal Court and House of Lords altogether.

It's hard to over-egg the RCJ's problem; it's 800-year history and its predominance as Europes most powerful judicial entity - with its corporate work and Commonwealth work - is now at risk. The ECHR, Council of Europe and even the EU don't really give a hoot about our 16th century-style Secret Courts but they want a slice of the RCJ's pie and Sir Mark Potter and a few patriarchal Appeal Court judges have provided a jealous Europe with that chance.

I suspect Potter knows the risk he has exposed the RCJ to - the greatest threat to it since the Luftwaffe. I suspect publictly he is trying to downplay matters whilst privately ensuring no scandal descends upon the Family Division in the next few months.

The snag he can't easily control the District courts, and as we can see with Leeds Family Court the District courts posess the means to truly bollox things.

So MK's won't be just tolerated, for the moment they'll be positively encouraged.

Go Europe!!

If JFF are looking at taking on the Jersey issue, there has to be Limited Liability built in somehow.

At £1, it's much better value than a lottery ticket...

Sign me up!!

Correct me If I am wrong - But why would a MKF need Public Liability Insurance?

John Hemming perhaps may need such but as an unpaid advisor it is my understanding that no claims could be brought against any MKF unless there was clear negligence involved in the court itself. As a MKF on behalf of John then I think the suit would be brought against John himself not any MKF.

Even as a MKF we do not even travel expenses as others appear to receive, therefore we are totally unpaid and not refunded travel costs etc.

Dont get me wrong I think it is a good idea that John be fully covered but I do not think t is applicable to any of us MKF's.

I had my own Limited company and fully understand the Laws surrounding such.

Any type of publicity to help the Jersey Case can only be good, but I am sorry but I will not partake on any site that recommends the NSPCC and the blog mentioned clearly states that this is one of the "Trusted Good Sites" to approach for help.


xx Husky xx

xx_husky_xx wrote:Any type of publicity to help the Jersey Case can only be good, but I am sorry but I will not partake on any site that recommends the NSPCC and the blog mentioned clearly states that this is one of the "Trusted Good Sites" to approach for help.

I am mystified as to where "the blog" mentioned says the NSPCC are one of the sites to approach for help.

I need to know which page you are referring to. The NSPCC are clearly one of the groups behind the campaign to take children into care that are being shouted at (emotional abuse).

I have, however, worked effectively with people who work for the NSPCC when they are advocating for people in care (or care leavers)

I am mystified as to where "the blog" mentioned says the NSPCC are one of the sites to approach for help.

I believe husky means Stuart Syvret's Blog, I remember one link being on there.

so is the whole purpose of having a ltd company just to buy insurance...

Is there an insurance company out there that is willing to take on this?
the premium will surely be astronomical....
surely if you follow this route then once people realise that insurance is in place everybody will start suing the arse of everybody else it will open the floodgates to instant windfalls..

from dirty old man 17th July 2008
"Before going on to recount what I know – I’d like to say to any victims of this episode – you are not alone. There are many others like you. Speak to the NSPCC. Speak to the States of Jersey Police Force."
to be fair this statement was backed up later by Stuart saying that The jersey police are working in conjunction with the NSPCC and it refers to people who have been through the system to contact them.

I am a little confused can you help...
what has starting a company based on MK friends got to do with Stuart Syvret...
why are people being encouraged to invest £1 to become a shareholder of a company that is going to take on the uk government over the jersey issues.
Dont get me wrong I have started reading Stuarts blog and it is very disturbing, and I do intend to go back and finish it off, further I will ensure that I remain up to date with it, because I feel that the jersey incident and what is going on in Britain today is not a million miles apart...
but I cannot work out the link...
Any takers?

It isn't public liability insurence - which is required for medium- sized firms and above (but not for small firms after Patricia Hewitt ruled) but professional indemnity insurence. The nature of my profession is that I have PII - it indemnifies for about £1.5 million for £350. In particular the insurer will do all they can to ensure they don't pay out - with a top commercial barrister and legal team.

Doctors have a similar setup with the Medical Defence Union scheme.

John-from-cgfap wrote:Dont get me wrong I have started reading Stuarts blog and it is very disturbing, and I do intend to go back and finish it off, further I will ensure that I remain up to date with it, because I feel that the jersey incident and what is going on in Britain today is not a million miles apart...
but I cannot work out the link...
Any takers?

Some of the children in Jersey institutions were placed there by English Local Authorities. We have so far identified one person for whom it has so far been impossible to work out what happened after being sent to Jersey.

It is entirely reasonable for children that are actually victims of abuse to be able to complain to the NSPCC. That is probably better than the Local Authority.

John - Do you read any of these posts?

The NSPCC have more than a direct link with SS's.
I personally KNOW their illegal tactics, Fraudulent Avertising, abusive and blatant misuse of powers.

ALL ADVERTISED CONFIDENTIAL HOTLINES TO THE NSPCC
are recorded are transcripts handed over to SS's
within 36 hrs in my case.

I will never endorse, make payment or recommend anything to do with a lying organisation who is paid to care for the very children they earn their money from.

Yes they do good work abroad - Pity about the UK

Try Barnado's first.


xx Husky xx

if you are referring to me, I read them all,
I am particularly amazed at how the questions never quite get answered...

If someone has been a victim of serious maltreatment including rape and others of their age cohort have been murdered and then incinerated I am happy if any organisation acts to prevent a cover-up.

I accept that the NSPCC are part of the system, but that does not mean they are to be avoided at all costs.

A case I have been working with the NSPCC involving a woman who has been in care where here baby was threatened with removal is moving in the right direction and the NSPCC advocate has been a positive part of this process.

On the other hand the NSPCC have some really silly ideas. I spoke to one of their Trustees at an event who shared my concern about some of the ideology.

John said...
"Some of the children in Jersey institutions were placed there by English Local Authorities. We have so far identified one person for whom it has so far been impossible to work out what happened after being sent to Jersey"

According to the stuart Syvret blog

"But we can reveal that one mainland authority, Birmingham City Council, has presented the Jersey force with a list of children who were sent to the home but went missing.
Although four have now been tracked down, after a mammoth search one still remains unaccounted for.
this one person you have identified is this one of the Birmingham 4 or is this another child from another county?