Justice For Families

In studying the international situation I have come to the conclusion that allowing forced adoption creates a situation where the child protection system ends up at war with families. As a consequence more children die.

Hence it is a good idea to take on forced adoption more directly.

i think everyone is being to nice about it, these are kids lives being destroyed, each day that goes by there are more damaged people and children. its like living in a dream world, people seem to be more passionate about fur coats and animal rights. we need to be campaigning for people to come forward, campaigning for adopted people to start questioning where they came from and some form of reform of the care system and social workers duties capped cause whilst they persecute parents for not coping well its ok for them to moan about how they cant cope and everyone feels sorry for them. if they cant cope they shouldn't be doing it.
why cant we make an advert warning that being derogatory etc etc etc is not helping any child or situation etc, why cant we use television like they do, we are also fighting to stop abuse.

johnhemming wrote:In studying the international situation I have come to the conclusion that allowing forced adoption creates a situation where the child protection system ends up at war with families. As a consequence more children die.

Precisely, before I saw this nonsense first hand I though we had a system in place where everyone works together to ensure the child’s best interests are met – That you would have the parent ensuring or trying to make sure the child needs are met, the social services also doing the same but in a professional manner, in some instances supporting the parent so this can be passed on via the parent to the child.

The outcome a continuing path of support for the child.

What we have got however are situations where the parents are managing perfectly fine but the social services finding every opportunity to insert themselves into family life, in other cases the parent only needs support but instead the social services going in jackboots first.

The outcome is a constant battle between the parents & social services, the child gets lost in this, as the parents are having to divide time that would have been spend solely on the child between the child & fighting the social services, just the stress of dealing with the social services means parents are drained therefore this impacts on the child, besides the other party that could have an helpful input is no longer ‘there’ are they are busy fighting the parents.

When it gets to courts it is worse still, the ones who are supposed to be looking out for the child’s best interest GAL/LA are twisting facts that directly have a detrimental effect on the child.

Then when you fight back you can't "cooperate" - Well I don't blame parents for not "cooperating", if in order to "cooperate" you must do as the social services say including being submissive to forced adoption, then I fully support all people who do not cooperate.

johnhemming wrote:Hence it is a good idea to take on forced adoption more directly.

I agree the whole concept makes me sick, it’s just too loose.

then how do we do it and lets do it its right that people campaign about fur etc and we are just sitting back and allowing this to happen how do we go about change?

Im curently writing and appealing to all campaign groups everywhere and universities in Wales to try to get some support and advice on this demonstartion info, I dont honestly knowwhere else to start, I myself must be careful, but wearing masks is a good idea. I may currently phsically not be able to attend as mine is to return soon. In the mean time I will continue to find out about demonstation as much as I can.

i think wearing gags be a good idea be good to get demo on mothers day and i think if we could get everyone from fassit mothers for justice stopinjustice now etc if every member pledged to turn up at a meeting place in london we may just have an impact i think forced adoption should be abolished it gives parents no chance of fighting to prove their innocence or that adoptions should not be final if you can prove misjustice

Demonstrations are not that effective a mechanism for achieving change. If you want to have an effect then there are better ways of using time.

For example picketing events promoting forced adoption (in a polite and reasonable manner) would have more of an effect.

We are running a number of lobby events in the House of Commons as well.

please count me in and give details of anything i can get involved with.

where do I find out about the lobbying events please?

johnhemming wrote:Demonstrations are not that effective a mechanism for achieving change. If you want to have an effect then there are better ways of using time.

For example picketing events promoting forced adoption (in a polite and reasonable manner) would have more of an effect.

We are running a number of lobby events in the House of Commons as well.

Picketing their web presence is also a good idea, in fact something I will be working on this year, the "picketing" will take a few years to come to fruition but will be well worth it, the impact "enormous"

As part of the adoption month the BBC had last year, if you remember it..... the BBC went to a LA in Devon or Plymouth way and attended and reported on a fostering recruitment day. I cant remember exactly which LA it was now but I read the article at the time.

The Devonport Column reported it - it was their involvment - they had it in their paper but not their website.

Some clever picketers went to this event to explain to the people who might want to sign up for fostering that the children they might come to look after may be children that had been wrongly taken by the system.

what followed was the BBC securuity men physically removing the picketers. It was an astonishing story, as though the BBC were protecting the racket on behalf of the government.

Ill do anything it takes rowdy or otherwise, and Im just repoerting here on the one "picket " I know about. I personally don't believe that gentle demos work either

Do u mean you will get into websites and picket that way. How superb. Fantastic if that is what you mean.

anon wrote:Do u mean you will get into websites and picket that way. How superb. Fantastic if that is what you mean.

It would be well earned by the people that run these child trafficking rings or sites promoting the trafficking, but not what I had in mind at all.

It is possible to rank a site (one I own) ‘near to’ or indeed ‘outrank’ a ‘ website’ (target) in search engines, so that when people search for certain information on Google (for instance) - they will come across the site (I own) which will be positioned nearby or higher in the results than the target, thus the surfer can be “informed” - This in effect would be a “picket” of their web presence (offering well argued facts in a reasonable manner & containing no libel against the target).

What I had in mind is perfectly legal in every sense of the word & would be a constant thorn in their side of whoever is the target & there is nothing the target could really do about it (legally at least), at the same time by having a site rank near or indeed outrank the ‘target’ it would raise public awareness of how these children are obtained & also expose the methods used, because this would target the ‘targets’ web traffic it makes it twice as nice for us & twice as annoying for the target - Whom hates the truth.

I have been having some thoughts lately as to what exactly could be achieved using the above methods & the only downside is - depending upon the target it could take years in extreme cases, especially for very competitive terms ie the ultimate crown would be the keyword “adoption” in Google - Imagine ranking top for that .

I would not engage in anything remotely illegal.